my brothers keeper

[hypo]

doug he does know his brother, his brother admits as much and so does he, you are however compleatly missing the point! i dont care what anyone does with thier money any one at all should be able to do anything at all with money they earned, but HE doesnt think that way, HE is telling us to take care of the poor, HE does not! it matters not if he ever met this dude in a hut or the illegal aunt or any other destitute member of his family, before you or i should sheel out a dime, he (and every other rich liberal) should bankrupt himself helping the poor before he ask us to. he doesnt care about the poor, and thats fine with me, but what i do care about is him telling me i got to.

You're right I found an article that stated that since 1988 (which is the first time he met his then 7 year old half brother) he has seen him twice.

So what you are concerned about is the quote that he made in the church back on December 1, 2006. where he was quoting the story of Cain and Abel. The word "brother" is suppose to mean in the extended sense of the term. He is telling you to take care of the poor the sick and the needy in your community your brothern. Which is what he is also suggesting to do with TAXES. Also he pays taxs and is saying that he will pay more taxes than ever before. I think you missed the point!

Either way stop making me defend Obama!

Obama to Dan: Here you go I am going to lower your taxes and pay more to cover the difference! What do you mean I shouldn't pay more. I am going to spend more. to give your cheaper health insurance that I want the fed. Gov't to regulate, you don't want what you boss offers that is okay cuz if he doesn't conform I will fine...um I mean tax him for not going with the flow. and then I will regulate what the doctors can charge and turn this in to socailized medicine and then tax you later to cover the cost via Gas Tax or other maindated taxes cuz I still got to pay the bills, but keep in mind I lowered your Income tax! ;)

McCain to Dan: How bout this I will lower your taxes and lower my taxes and I will start taxing healthcare to help pay for the uninsured and those who can't afford it, but I am going to give you a tax credit of $5,000 which should more than cover you taxes (for now, until I decide that we can't afford the tax credit anymore). And you can go any where with that tax credit and get health insurence. Don't worry about all the people who are going to lose out on group discount plans that your employer may be offering cuz he can't afford to offer it to less people cuz you can take that $5000 and go any where and get health ins.(for now!)

McCain: 1
Obama: 1
Amercian People: -2

[ahrimen]

did you actualy read what you just wrote? i dont even know what to say. he will pay more taxes? why wait? no one held a gun to his head and said KEEP YOUR $4 MILLON DOLLARS OR ILL KILL YA! that is the beauty of being FREE! if i want to give all my money to the poor i can, if i want to spend it all on green jello i can, if i want to start a buisness with i can, if i want to keep it I CAN!

analogy: doug you are fat and i will get legislation passed restricting you and all fat people to 1 cheeseburger a month, i am fat and eat like 3 a week but i swear when i get the law passed i will go to 1 a month too. or how about i stop telling you how to eat and i just stop eating like a pig and use persuasion and example to show you the "right way" instead of passing a damn law to force you

[hypo]

Canidites on the War:

Obama to Dan: I am going to make changes that will end the War. I am not going to share what my plan is, mainly because I don't have a plan. But the plan is to get the hell out of Iraq as soon as possible. Let Iraq help Iraq.

McCain to Dan: The War will be over when it is over. FIrst we need to get Iraq back on their feet, (um wait we need to get back on our feet) then we will talk about when and if we will be backing out of Iraq. I want to be honest with you there is no real plan.

Obama: 2
McCain: 2
American People: -4

[hypo]

I didn't say I agreed I am just stating that you can't throw out statements Like Obama won't take care of his family or that he hates poor people when that is not even what the quote was even about and not have someone correct you on that.

BIG Bold letters I am not voting for either canidates as both have SUCKY plans and you are a sucker if you believe that you are going to be well off with either canidate. You are not! We are all Funked! We just need to make sure that we stay informed and keep your local gov't on speed dial when these issues come up so they know how you want them to vote.

Also IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU VOTE FOR IN MARYLAND CUZ OBAMA IS GOING TO WIN. I will buy you my weight in Hamburgers if I am wrong.

[hypo]

... but HE doesnt think that way, HE is telling us to take care of the poor, HE does not! it matters not if he ever met this dude in a hut or the illegal aunt or any other destitute member of his family, before you or i should sheel out a dime, he (and every other rich liberal) should bankrupt himself helping the poor before he ask us to. he doesnt care about the poor, and thats fine with me, but what i do care about is him telling me i got to.

Your church tells you every Sunday to donate 10% to the church to do with as they see fit and then asks you again to donate to the poor. I don't hear any out cry from you on that. He was in a church talking to perishners about taking care of the sick the poor and the needy at an AIDS/HIV awareness day event; He wasn't even talking to you. You and every other person in the US of A can choose to listen or ignore him just like we do to any gas guzzling politician that tells you to go out and get a Hybrid. I don't hear out cry about that either. Until I hear I am going to force you to donate 10% of your income, oh and by the way I am not, to the sick, the poor and the needy. WHAT THE F DOES IT MATTER. How many times have we heard we should we should we should and the person preaching does the opposite. All the time and its not just politicians running their mouth

[ahrimen]

This is Theresa,
There's a difference between asking for DONATIONS, and TAKING YOUR MONEY THAT YOU WORK HARD FOR... He's not asking... and dont worry, if you're under the number he declares as "too rich", then you wont feel it directly out of your pocket, that is unless your boss cannot afford to keep you around... but, dont think that you'll ever be actually able to start your own business, and create jobs from your business, under an Obama Presidency... McCain is for businesses keeping the USA a Capitalistic Country, with businesses (not owned by the Government) creating jobs for people, and providing some sort of service to the consumers... that is how Capitalism is supposed to work. It is what America has thrived on, and look what happened to the Housing and Economy when the Democrats got to Socialize housing, so EVERY American had the "Right" to own a big ass over their budget house.... It crashed... and you dont think that will happen even more after EVERYTHING in this Country is Socialized!??!

Well Good Luck with your 3rd Party votes you guys... What a Waste, it's not like you all know Ron Paul any better, and now you're just going to throw away a vote, just to stand for something that has not enough matter in this country... there will never be 3 parties on the final ballot. And atleast McCain is a Good man who knows how to honor and protect his fellow Americans... and most of all, LEAD!

[hypo]

Neither canadite is going to help you keep your money they are just going to find another way to get it from you so they can spend it. Lower income tax is not fixing problems. THey are going to tax your healthcare, they are going to put heavier taxes on gas & power. Both canidates are offering Tax credits to small business with low number of employees and under 2Million or so in Revenue (NO DIFFERENCE THERE). They are going to sugar coat it and make it look pretty as they reach into your back pocket and still take your money. Both Canidates are going to TAKE your money AWAY that you WORKED HARD for it is all a matter of how you like to take your medicine. McCain is also for opening up the trade imbargos and making it easier for other countries to get product in to this country for free, Taking jobs away from Americans just like Obama. It wasn't just Dems that passed the "Socialized" Housing and they both helped it crash.

By the way just Cuz you KNOW McCain doesn't mean that I know him from a hole in the wall. I know him from what he himself has put out there and he is looking to keep as much power in the white house and Federal Gov't as Obama.

[Belovesus]

but american buisiness has done nothing but SCREW americans ever since the industrial revolution...

19th Century- Railroads screw farmers by charging SHITLOADS of $$$ to ship crops; no minimal wages means work a whole day for a slice of bread

early 20th Century- Again no minimal wages = slice of bread; Industrial workers DIE regularly; Republicans ruling gov't keep out of action

1920's- because of WWI, USA was booming!!! Everything was great! but because of lack of gov't control.............

Great Depression- Need i explain???

FDR- The New Deal- set up better working conditions; social-security(there is a reason for it!!!); created JOBS!!!

WWII- Extreme Gov't control lead to men fighting in the army(steady income); women working plants(kick-start to women's rights...)

post-WWII- Again a post war boom!

1970's- Oil Buisiness' screw americans!

late 20th Century- US Gov't allows Military to develope what later becomes the internet!= technology BOOM!

Past few years- Oil Buisiness' cause shoot up of prices; higher gas prices=higher prices for everything that relies on transportation(everything); INTERNET NOW BEING SCREWED OVER BY COMCAST!!!; BGE prices SKY HIGH!



Buisiness always pushes too far and causes the gov't to have to act quickly. Otherwise disaster WILL strike.

[Belovesus]

THey are going to tax your healthcare, they are going to put heavier taxes on gas & power. Both canidates are offering Tax credits to small business with low number of employees and under 2Million or so in Revenue (NO DIFFERENCE THERE).

All because they dont have the guts to put Tariffs on imports! By Tariffing imports, income taxes go down. Jobs will open up. MONEY WILL STAY IN AMERICA!!!

Its a great solution that is overlooked now, and so what if we won't have shitty crud from china! make it here... WHERE WE KNOW ITS SAFE AND WELL MADE!

[hypo]

It is what America has thrived on, and look what happened to the Housing and Economy when the Democrats got to Socialize housing, so EVERY American had the "Right" to own a big ass over their budget house.... It crashed... and you dont think that will happen even more after EVERYTHING in this Country is Socialized!??!

How did we get "socialized housing"? Who passed this "socialized housing"? Who was warned it was coming? This is everyone who has been in office from 2000 to 2007 fault. Not Dem. or Rep. this was greeding investers and speculators and The Federal Reserve for creating this loop hole and even thou they saw the problem doing nothing about it cuz it will fix it self. Why would you try and make it sound like it was one party over the other all in the game were to blame. Including anyone who was trying to get into something they could not afford.

John McCain believes that globalization is an opportunity for American workers today and in the future. Ninety-five percent of the world's customers lie outside our borders, and we need to be at the table when the rules for access to those markets are written. To do so, the U.S. should engage in multilateral, regional and bilateral efforts to reduce barriers to trade, level the global playing field and build effective enforcement of global trading rules.

How does lowering or getting rid of import/export tax help us to sell over priced products that the world is already trading at 1/3 of the cost we could provide.

Fight for Fair Trade: Obama and Biden will fight for a trade policy that opens up foreign markets to support good American jobs. They will use trade agreements to spread good labor and environmental standards around the world and stand firm against agreements like the Central American Free Trade Agreement that fail to live up to those important benchmarks. Obama and Biden will also pressure the World Trade Organization to enforce trade agreements and stop countries from continuing unfair government subsidies to foreign exporters and nontariff barriers on U.S. exports.

what? I will trade with you or lower or get rid of improt/export tax if you give your countries workers good labor and environmental standards around the world. So now were are trying to instill work values in other countries before we will trade with them.

Amend the North American Free Trade Agreement: Obama and Biden believe that NAFTA and its potential were oversold to the American people. They will work with the leaders of Canada and Mexico to fix NAFTA so that it works for American workers.

you guys aren't playing fair we opened up trade for free and then you don't buy from us this is a one way street. What do you mean our products are too exspensive.

[hypo]

Alright I am going to bed and I will be at the polls first thing at 7am to vote. I see we all have opinions and I hope for the best for all of us and our families and this country. So everyone go out and vote tomorrow, lets try and make a difference and for now on we should have a rule no Politics on the Boards, when we get wound up we can't help but blow up. I love you guys like family and I hope that you all don't hold any of this against one another, especially me! :D

[Belovesus]

Agreed...


Real world politics stink.. :( Make mongo angry... :( Mongo want pie... :D

[hypo]

pie for all and all for pie!

[Belovesus]

YAY!


Who's Got the Whipped Cream??? :D

[MorGrendel]

Treebeard, I kinda like that.