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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 042571.ece
i guess aunts dont count, http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 583353.ece
or 1/2 brothers
but my boss is gona get taxed to hell and back to take care of them though and i wont get taxed more but a raise and ot are out, and in 2010 when the bush tax cuts I DO benifit from expires, i'll be obamas brothers keeper! and aunty's too! cause his $4,000,000 is not enough to put them up in his tony resco special.
It’s not arrogance when you’ve bled for it.
Ahrimen Rex - Former Warlord of Galatia
ok! barack o' said if you make under $250k, that went to $200k now its $120k (to everyone who is paying attention) you will not see a tax increase. every one over the magic # will see a 9% or more tax increase "to spread the wealth arouond" (his words). this spreading the wealth is intended to "help the little guy" and "grow our economy from the ground up" because he the messiah cares so much for the impoverished people of this country! (keep in mind he made $4 mil in 2006 and gave $10K to charity) and then has the audacity to say "yes we are our brothers keeper"
and "what you do to the least of my brothers you do to me" to imply that Americans dont care about the poor, and are too rich. his brother lives in kenya on $12 a month in a tin hut that is 6X12 and his aunt (who was written about in his book so adoringly) lives in a slum in boston on welfare. keep in mind he made $4MILLION DOLLARS!!!! now my boss makes over Mr.O's magic # and he told us that if he gets elected we will keep our jobs but overtime and raises are out, they wont be able to afford it. (just to let every one know how buisnesses are run, i have a blue collar job. this just doesnt affect big corp.) on top of all the other smoke and mirrors he said he would repeal the "BUSH TAX CUTS". hey! i benefit from those! and i dont make $120k no where near it. hes not raising taxes on me persay, just cutting some cuts....addition by subtraction.
when are these Rich liberal elite ass holes gonna put their money where thier mouth is? HE should take care of his own damn aunt not me, you, my boss, our customers, chris, little hairy guys name adam, rich republicans, middle class independants, magic trolls or fairy godmothers! BARACK FUCKING HUSSAIN OBAMA SHOULD!
How does making Rich People Poor, Make Poor People Rich??!!??!!??
It’s not arrogance when you’ve bled for it.
Ahrimen Rex - Former Warlord of Galatia
(I know it's long, but stick with it. I die in the end)
Again, I'm sorry.
I can not understand why anyone would vote for either canidate.
The sooner we wake up and realize that it is a broken system being exploited by the bad guys the better.
Where did they pull this number of $250,000 for a small businesses? Did Biden say $150 the other day, WTF? Can they do Math? How many employees can you hire for $250,000? We want small businesses to hire employees right? We want small businesses to succeed, and eventually encorporate, right? The 250,000 dollar small business is a pink elephant . . . It does not exist.
Well 4 employees. I'm not going to be able to fabricate a lot, but at least it will be high quality. But wait, everybody goes home at 5, and I'm still here working. This blows. I deserve a raise, too bad I cant afford it as people are not really buying my high quality stuff. Stupid Wal-Mart. Ok new plan. Fire Lok, his jokes are mean and cruel, unlike mine which are cheeky shenaigans. Laterally, Promote Nug to forman. Hire a new guy to replace Lok.
Still four employees, but quality is starting to slip. Also turns out that Lok was a better fabricator than I realized, and now we are falling behind on orders and have to start giving refunds. I need more fabricators. I'm going to Fire Serbi, anybody can file papers right. I hire a highschool kid to file invoices, and an illigal imigrant to help with fabrication.
FUCK! Now I'm not making anything, is it even worth it! These refunds are killing us. I got Nugi breathing down my neck, Ahri is in here every day ranting about working with an illegal, that stupid highscool kid calls out every Monday and Friday so I have to do invoices, and I'm pretty sure that the Mexican is stealing stuff. I think it is time for a shake up.
Well great, We avoided any Refunds, but now Nugi makes more than I do. Maybe I should let him run the place. I don't know what happen to our workmanship, but unless I babysit the whole damn thing, it comes out crap. I know I'm going to start getting phone calls wanting new parts. Also, I'm going to have to switch to some lower quality materials since I can't sell my product at the price I want. Oh, and that new fabricator Rachi is bitching that it is unfair that I don't offer benifits. I don't think this experiment with Ahri in the office is working. He's on the phone all day with his wife, and now every other time I see him, he's hitting me up for money.
Galatia LLC - (sole proprieter)
Morg - Owner - Salary = Earnings(250,000) - Salaries (161,000) - Expenses($25,000) - Benifits ($18,000) - Refunds ($5,000) = ($41,000)(no benifits)
Nugi - Employee (Foreman)- $45,000 + 6,000 Benifits
Equi - Employee (Fabricator) - $25,000 (poverty wage) + 6,000 Benifits
Rachi - Employee (Fabricator) - $25,000 (poverty wage) + 6,000 Benifits
Raymi - Columbia Illegal (fabricator) - $8 an hour - $16,500
Bri - El Salvador Illegal (fabricator) - $8 an hour - $16,500
Tommi - El Salvador Illegal (fabricator) - $8 an hour - $16,500
Fritzi - Mexico Illegal (fabricator) - $8 an hour - $16,500
You have to be kidding me, Bri and Tommi just beat up Raymi behind the shop for putting up a Columbia flag at his workstation. Now I got cops swarming around here, and the word "fines" was mentioned more than once. That's it. I give up. I'm not making any money. I could make more as someone else's employee. I'm locking the doors and walking away.
As Morg makes his way to his vehical, a sniper shot rings out. Arhi, a disgruntle former employee, fires a single bullet ripping the front of Morg's forehead off. As Morg lay dieing, Ahri screams profanities about how lined with cash Morg's pockets must be, and that he'll have the nicest casket in town. As the entrapenours life blood pours out, he is hear to mutter, "Thank you, sweet mericiful God."
- end scene.
Mor Grendel
If only I had an enemy bigger than my apathy.
Oh, and Morg's salary (EBIT) = Earnings -Expenses - Taxes - Interest
So in the last scenario $250,000 - $209,000 - Income Tax (33% on Earnings) $82,500 - Gains Tax (15% on Earnings) $37,500 = for a net loss of 79,000. This is assmung Morg had enough capital to start the business without any loans.
I guess, this is why not everybody goes into business. (I really, really, really hope I misunderstand EBIT)
Where were McCain and Palin to blow this out of the park? They abandoned logic, for fear mongering... this is F'N tee ball. (like McCain's energy policy) Of course they never challenge each other's ideas in the debates, just abstracts and out of context statements.
Funny how is it that tax almost equals out to 50%....Seems like a tipping point to me. Or as Dan pointed out, possibly the tipping point is already here.
Mor Grendel
If only I had an enemy bigger than my apathy.
I agree with Morg about neither is worth voting for. I am not for Big Government and not for taxing my healthcare in order to help out the little guy... I AM THE F'N LITTLE GUY! I want to keep my money!
hýÞö, Aka-Guðmundr Feitrháls Þórsson, Aka-Nugget. Aka-Cramman Ruithais
The Order of Ansuz
Citizen of Galatia
does anyone not even notice that obamas family lives in squalar wile he is a millonare?
also the "FAIRNESS DOCTRINE" obama didnt bring this up nacy pelosi did but he said he wouldnt veto it if she got it passed. in a nut shell if you own an "Electonic media sorce" you will be regulated by the fcc to be "fair" not to right wing or left wing. so a guy, apointed by the congress, will decide if you are to right or left, now i know what you are all saying "that seems fine" but think about it real hard what if one day we get an all rep. congress and pres. who decides Rush Limbaugh should be that guy to sensor everyone else, He would decide who and what is "FAIR" you dont like that somuch now do ya?
It’s not arrogance when you’ve bled for it.
Ahrimen Rex - Former Warlord of Galatia
ahrimen wrote:does anyone not even notice that obamas family lives in squalar wile he is a millonare?
What part of his family are your talking about. His 7 step-sisters and step-brothers or his 3-4 step parents or his mother. he wasn't that close to 6 of his 7 step-siblings and his step-sister is not doing bad as a school teacher in Hawaii. How do you know that he doesn't help out his family from time to time. My Aunts and Uncles would come over and buy my family food and clothes when my parents could not afford to. That doesn't mean that because they help my family out that there had to be a big to do about it. We don't know if he hasn't set up trust for any nieces or nephews or that he hasn't helped siblings start businesses. Why are we so quick to assume that just because his family is leading modest normal lives that he hasn't helped them in any way.
PS: 6 of Obamas living siblings were rasied in Kenya, Africa not in Hawaii which to me may be were you may have heard that his family lives in squalar.
hýÞö, Aka-Guðmundr Feitrháls Þórsson, Aka-Nugget. Aka-Cramman Ruithais
The Order of Ansuz
Citizen of Galatia
The "FAIRNESS DOCTRINE" will never pass, as it is a breach of the 1st ammendment and they would have to abolish that first. Do you really think that lobbist will let the FCC change all US media to have to be unbias on all issues, good bye washington post, baltimore sun, any newspaper for that matter all TV programming, minus maybe some news broadcast,ALL radio goodbye, before it would effect the internet peoples in this Country. I know that other countries have done it but it would take a lot to get anything like that to pass here.
hýÞö, Aka-Guðmundr Feitrháls Þórsson, Aka-Nugget. Aka-Cramman Ruithais
The Order of Ansuz
Citizen of Galatia
Where are you seeing $120,000, as any news source I can find is stating that he is sticking to $200,000 -Indiv and $250,000 joint. Which everyone on this board is got a long way to go for that. And it is tax cuts for the 10%-28% income brackets that Bush in acted would stay in effect but there will be a 3% to 4% increase in taxes for the 33%-35% bracket. Which I am not saying is what I agree with but I am just stating what he is proposing in stead of what someone thinks he is going to propose because someone said that, "That Muslim Terrorist Barack Obama, is going to only tax people who make over $250,000 and he is going to fine them for not voting for him and did you know that he is half black and that he wasn't born in this country."
hýÞö, Aka-Guðmundr Feitrháls Þórsson, Aka-Nugget. Aka-Cramman Ruithais
The Order of Ansuz
Citizen of Galatia
