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The Pledge
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:10 pm
by MorGrendel
So here's a fun little quiz, No peeking! I'll post the answer in a few days.
Re: The Pledge
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:33 pm
by Brynhild
It was written in during the red scare. To separate us from the god-less soviets.
Re: The Pledge
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:05 pm
by ahrimen
uhhh not exactly........
The Knights of Columbus in New York City felt that the pledge was incomplete without any reference to a deity.[citation needed] Appealing to the authority of Abraham Lincoln, the Knights felt that the words "under God" which were from Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address were most appropriate to add to the Pledge.[citation needed] In New York City on April 22, 1951, the Board of Directors of the Knights of Columbus adopted a resolution to amend their recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance at the opening of each of the meetings of the 800 Fourth Degree Assemblies of the Knights of Columbus by addition of the words "under God" after the words "one nation." In the following two years, the idea spread throughout Knights of Columbus organizations nationwide. On August 21, 1952, the Supreme Council of the Knights of Columbus at its annual meeting adopted a resolution urging that the change be made universal and copies of this resolution were sent to the President, the Vice President (as Presiding Officer of the Senate) and the Speaker of the House of Representatives. The National Fraternal Congress meeting in Boston on September 24, 1952, adopted a similar resolution upon the recommendation of its President, Supreme Knight Luke E. Hart. Several State Fraternal Congresses acted likewise almost immediately thereafter. This campaign led to several official attempts to prompt Congress to adopt the Knights of Columbus’ policy for the entire nation. These attempts failed.
The Knights of Columbus tried repeatedly, but they were unsuccessful in their attempts to persuade the United States government to amend the pledge. Bills were introduced as early as 1953, when Representative Louis C. Rabaut of Michigan sponsored a resolution at the suggestion of a correspondent. It was a Presbyterian minister who made the difference in 1954 by preaching a sermon about Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg Address. The minister was George MacPherson Docherty, a native of Scotland who was called to succeed Peter Marshall as pastor of the New York Avenue Presbyterian Church near the White House, where, in 1863, the same year as the address, Lincoln attended and even rented a pew. After Lincoln’s death, the pew that he rented became something of a national monument. It became customary for later United States presidents to attend services at the church and sit in the Lincoln pew on the Sunday closest to Lincoln’s birthday (February 12) each year.
As Lincoln Sunday (February 7, 1954) approached, Rev. Docherty knew not only that President Dwight Eisenhower was to be in attendance, but that it was more than just an annual ritual for him; while President, Eisenhower had been baptized a Presbyterian. Docherty's sermon focused on the Gettysburg Address, drawing its title from the address, "A New Birth of Freedom."
Docherty’s message began with a comparison of the United States to ancient Sparta. Docherty noted that a traveler to ancient Sparta was amazed by the fact that the Spartans’ national might was not to be found in their walls, their shields, or their weapons, but in their spirit. Likewise, said Docherty, the might of the United States should not be thought of as emanating from their newly developed atomic weapons, but in their spirit, the "American way of life". In the remainder of the sermon Docherty sought to define as succinctly as possible the essence of the American spirit and way of life. To do so, Docherty appealed to those two words in Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address. According to Docherty, what has made the United States both unique and strong was her sense of being the nation that Lincoln described: a nation "under God." Docherty took the opportunity to tell a story of a conversation with his children about the Pledge of Allegiance. Docherty was troubled by the fact that it did not include any reference to the deity. Without such reference, Docherty insisted that the Pledge could apply to just about any nation. He felt that the pledge should reflect the American spirit and way of life as defined by Lincoln.
After the service concluded, Docherty had opportunity to converse with Eisenhower about the substance of the sermon. The President expressed his enthusiastic concurrence with Docherty’s view, and the very next day, Eisenhower had the wheels turning in Congress to incorporate Docherty’s suggestion into law. On February 8, 1954, Rep. Charles Oakman (R-Mich.), introduced a bill to that effect. On Lincoln’s birthday, four days later, Oakman made the following speech on the floor of the House:
Rev. Dr. George MacPherson Docherty (left) and President Eisenhower (second from left) on the morning of February 7, 1954 at the New York Avenue Presbyterian Church; the morning Eisenhower was convinced that the pledge needed to be amendedLast Sunday, the President of the United States and his family occupied the pew where Abraham Lincoln worshipped. The pastor, the Reverend George M. Docherty, suggested the change in our Pledge of Allegiance that I have offered [as a bill]. Dr. Docherty delivered a wise sermon. He said that as a native of Scotland come to these shores he could appreciate the pledge as something more than a hollow verse taught to children for memory. I would like to quote from his words. He said, 'there was something missing in the pledge, and that which was missing was the characteristic and definitive factor in the American way of life.' Mr. Speaker, I think Mr. Docherty hit the nail square on the head.
Senator Homer Ferguson, in his report to the Congress on March 10, 1954, said, "The introduction of this joint resolution was suggested to me by a sermon given recently by the Rev. George M. Docherty, of Washington, D.C., who is pastor of the church at which Lincoln worshipped." This time Congress concurred with the Oakman-Ferguson resolution, and Eisenhower opted to sign the bill into law on Flag Day (June 14, 1954). The fact that Eisenhower clearly had Docherty’s rationale in mind as he initiated and consummated this measure is apparent in a letter he wrote in August, 1954. Paraphrasing Docherty’s sermon, Eisenhower said
These words [“under God”] will remind Americans that despite our great physical strength we must remain humble. They will help us to keep constantly in our minds and hearts the spiritual and moral principles which alone give dignity to man, and upon which our way of life is founded.
Docherty’s sermon was published by Harper & Bros. in New York in 1958 and President Eisenhower took the opportunity to write to Dr. Docherty with gratitude for the opportunity to once again read the sermon
Re: The Pledge
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:03 am
by MorGrendel
Correct answer is 1954.
The House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) began its search for potentially subversive individuals and organizations in 1938, and by 1954, the Congressional interrogators reached the zenith of their power. In the Senate, the Government Operations Committee, chaired by Wisconsin Republican Senator Joseph McCarthy, expanded its investigative scope from simple concern with government waste. The Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations hunted Communist infiltration in the executive branch, stretching the limits of its authority and eventually culminating in McCarthy’s 1954 Congressional censure. That censure and the continued inquiries of the House Un-American Activities Committee only heightened a popular paranoia steadily accumulating throughout the first post-war decade.
"The greatest and most effective weapon against Communism today,is to be born again Christian” wrote Bill Graham in 1954.
“Communism is the deadly foe of belief in God and of all organized religion,” according to former President Truman.
Thanks for playing.
Re: The Pledge
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:01 am
by hypo
Dan Wikipedia might be right sometimes but most times it is WRONG. ask any celeberty!
Re: The Pledge
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:27 pm
by Fritz
Ok so 4 people don't know their history...
Re: The Pledge
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:50 pm
by MorGrendel
Shoot, That's better than I would have thought. I think some people looked it up :)
Re: The Pledge
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:57 pm
by ahrimen
doug you are so quick to give critisisim and say my research is wrong when you give no reseach of your own.
i chose that article out of many others because it had very little opinion and many facts dispute them with reseach if you like but to just say "no it's wrong" well back at ya NO YOUR WRONG! we could do this all day and no point would be made, then we would be congress.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO6DORwBzuA if only!
Re: The Pledge
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:02 am
by hypo
Sarcasm!! I was making fun of Wikipedia. I listen to a lot of radio and people are always quoting Wikipedia and the people that they are talking to say that the "fact" is false. This has a lot to do with the fact that you or anyone can put information on Wikipedia. See this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Caltagirone.
I was just trying to give you heads up that you can't always trust Wikipedia, nothing against you.
PS: Someone else besides me should add additional text to the story of Henry Caltagirone.
Re: The Pledge
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:37 pm
by ahrimen
Re: The Pledge
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:57 pm
by MorGrendel
Done. Are mommy and daddy done fighting now.
Re: The Pledge
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:17 am
by hypo
Only if it is time to beat the kids!