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LVX · Post by **LVX** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:04 pm

hey, how much will it cost to get somebody to make me a helmet?

Kaliban · Post by **Kaliban** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:10 am

you should really ask what r u willing to spend

LVX · Post by **LVX** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:49 pm

i make eight dollars an hour.

Kaliban · Post by **Kaliban** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:37 am

ok just think about what you want ot spend .. helmets are not really cheap so you might have ot save a bit to get what you want .. but look around on the net an get an idea of what u are in for ..

MorGrendel · Post by **MorGrendel** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:56 pm

Hey Lux,
From the outside looking in here are my thoughts.
1. Figure out a top price that you are willing to pay, and know you will likely need to pay half up front. So if $300 is your top, be sure you have $150 cash in hand when negotiating the price of your helmet. Armorors often don't take you request seriously unless you put cash down.

2. What metal a do you want. Mild steel is cheaper, but rusts. Stainless is stronger and will not rust, but is also harder to work which may drive the cost up. Gauge is also an issue, but a helmet builder worth his salt should build it to spec. However, you don't get a dome less than 16 mild, even if Markland rules may allow it.

3. What style? What kind of dome? These will have an effect on construction costs?

Generally, anything can be done, but you have to pay for it. I would go in expecting to spend at least $300 for a simple helm.

LVX · Post by **LVX** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:26 am

ok how about this:
16 gauge mild steel.
vandal style construction with oculars.
bargrille covering the lower section of face.

what's the cheapest you can make that for?

MorGrendel · Post by **MorGrendel** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:42 am

Soild spun dome top is fine? Also, you can some times find them cheap on e-bay and other spots like armor archive. Armorers will not nessecarly hunt around to find one on the cheap, so if you can find/purchase one ahead of time, you can knock off another chunck of change.

The bar grill could raise the price since it won't be standard. Would it go all the way up to the eyes? Are you planning to hang chainmail from the helm. If so, you may be able to skirt some athestic stuff.

Also for the oculars and nose piece you might want to check out Raymond's Quiet Press.

LVX · Post by **LVX** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:47 am

spun dome top is fine.
i would like for the helmet to be of the early germanic style (hence the oculars), so i was thinking that it would be better for the oculars to be functional and integrated into the main body of the helmet. however, if that proves to be too expensive, i could buy a cheap spangen helm and cast my own oculars. as for the bar-grill question, i dont know. i would like to keep the grill below the oculars (possibly welded to them), but if the eye-holes turn out to be too big for safety regulations then a short bar could be welded inside. so does anyone think that something like this could cost less than $200? or at least around there...

ahrimen · Post by **ahrimen** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:17 pm

i could probably do it for around 200, though i will need to get together with you and work out a drawling, i think that your coming in way under kalibans price though.

Kaliban · Post by **Kaliban** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:54 pm

just time an materials are what cost you an thats alot of welding an bending metal for a bar grill .. even out of mild steel .

LVX · Post by **LVX** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:54 am

ahrimen, where are you located? is there an event coming up that we could meet at? i will more than likely wait until after newyears to spend any money, but if i can run into you before then, i'd like to plan. then maybe morgrendel can get that old kiderfodder helmet back.

MorGrendel · Post by **MorGrendel** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:18 am

Soon as I nail the guys down, maybe you could come up for a Sunday practice (see cross-post as this has yet to happen).

ahrimen · Post by **ahrimen** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:57 pm

i live in jessup your welome to come by but its hard for me to get out right now as i have a newborn boy.

LVX · Post by **LVX** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:47 am

well, what's the next event do you plan on being at? we can meet there and i can show you my drawings.

ahrimen · Post by **ahrimen** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:40 pm

way to early to tell right now. i'll keep you posted.

i may go to storvic tonight but i dont know 4 sure